"Scholars overwhelmingly agree that the word pais was used in the Greek language as a synonym for the word eromenos-a Greek word meaning “the boy you Also, you are simply wrong about the use of the word pais in antiquity: Jesus did not condemn slavery, and used slavery analogies all the time. So please, if you are a pro-gay Christian, don't use this argument. But if you want to draw that conclusion, then Jesus was also fine with slavery, since he heals the slave in the Lucan version. Is that really something that pro-gay Christians want to argue for?Īnd even if we somehhow imagine that this was a loving non-slave-related relationship, then we have the problem that this means that the concept of a loving gay relationship was familiar to the early Christians, so the "clobber passages" in the NT could be talking about that kind of gay relationship.įinally it seems like a stretch to draw the conclusion the story that Jesus was fine with the relationship - it's an argument from silence. The other problem with this argument is that if this is a male lover, and Jesus was saying that he was OK with it, then he was saying that he was OK with a sexual relation between a slave-owner and his slave (since he is identified as his slave in Luke). So the word in question probably doesn't mean "male lover". Even more so since we have other versions of the story where it is clearly an offspring or a slave. Since the individual the word mostly means "child", and even "slave", much more often than "male lover" it's much more likely that that's the meaning here. Now, the word "pais" primarily means "child", and can also be used for slaves (compare the US use of "boy"), and in classical literature it was rarely used of male lovers. In Matthew ( 8:5-13) the individual is said to be his "pais". In John ( 4:46-54) the individual is said to be his son (gr.
In Luke ( 7:2-10) the individual is said to be the centurion's slave (gr. Some people argue that in the version in Matthew the individual was the centurion's male lover, and we can conclude from the story that Jesus was OK with gay relationships.
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